Difficult Passages · Who, Where, and Which

“Not with me is against me,” or “not against us is on our part”?

One speaks of a man’s stand toward Christ, where there is no middle ground; the other of the disciples’ toward one who was doing Christ’s work.

The Passages

Matthew 12:30
30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
Mark 9:40
40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

See Also

Mark 9:38-39
38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
Luke 9:49-50
49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. 50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
Luke 11:23
23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

The Difficulty

Jesus said, “He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad” (Matthew 12:30). But when John told of one casting out devils in His name who “followeth not us,” He said, “Forbid him not … For he that is not against us is on our part” (Mark 9:38–40).

The Answer

The two sayings answer two different questions. Matthew 12:30 was spoken when the Pharisees said He cast out devils by Beelzebub: between Christ and Satan there is no middle ground, and whoever isn’t on Christ’s side is against Him (Gill). Mark 9:40 was spoken of a man who was casting out devils in Christ’s name though he didn’t follow the twelve: he was doing Christ’s work against the same enemy, and so was on their side, though not of their company (Gill). One is about where a man stands toward Christ; the other, about how the disciples should regard one who stood with Him. Luke gives both sayings (Luke 9:50; 11:23).

Sources

  1. none ought to be neutral; whoever is not on the side of Christ, is reckoned as an enemy
    Checked against: Internet Archive scan of the first edition, 2026-10-28
  2. inasmuch as he was opposing the same common enemy, and did nothing against them, he ought to be reckoned as one for them, and on their side
    Checked against: Internet Archive scan of the first edition, 2026-10-28